# T4T S01E10 - Thinking from the Bottom Up

a [[Tools for Thinking Podcast]] episode

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## Cover art

Here's the Stable Diffusion-generated cover image for this episode, from the prompt "tktk:"



## Guests

- [Gordon Brander](https://www.linkedin.com/in/gordonbrander/), founder of [Subconscious](http://subconscious.network/)
- [Sönke Ahrens](https://www.linkedin.com/in/soenkeahrens/), author of [How to Take Smart Notes](https://www.amazon.com/How-Take-Smart-Notes-Technique-ebook/dp/B09V5M8FR5/jerrymichalskisr)

Host: [Jerry Michalski](http://www.jerrymichalski.com/)

## Audio podcast 

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## Video podcast  
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- On [Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/episode/2Nn1v8GGXhuh3Znx7ni0Su)
- On [YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP3FsuujC44)

Even better: the video, synced to a searchable transcript, all ready for conversation on [Hypothes.is](https://hypothes.is/), is [here](https://docdrop.org/video/FP3FsuujC44/). 

## Brain screen cap and link

![[T4T S01E10- Thinking from the Bottom Up.jpg]]
https://bra.in/6qe36g  <-- follow this link to browse this map

## Links mentioned

- [@roambookclub](https://twitter.com/roambookclub)
- [Civilizational Implications of Doing This Right](https://bra.in/5joXg5)
- [8 Design Principles for Robust Long-Enduring Commons](https://bra.in/2vBzKW)
- [Adversarial Interoperability](https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/10/adversarial-interoperability) (2019)
- [Articles About Cybernetics](https://bra.in/8pxgzK)
- [Articles About IPFS](https://bra.in/2jrwJ5)
- [Bellingcat](https://www.bellingcat.com/) (2014)
- [Blank Pages Are Daunting](https://bra.in/2p63zP)
- [Connections Was Really Inspiring for Me](https://bra.in/6qzdQ6)
- [Feedback Loops](https://bra.in/3qaEWm)
- [Noosphere Protocol](https://bra.in/7vNYbW)
- [History of Science](https://bra.in/7jQYJm)
- [Institutional Design](https://bra.in/4jXDay)
	- [Design from Trust](https://bra.in/9jYPAq) (2012 DfT)
- [Many People Search for Twitter Alternatives, like Mastodon. but the Pickings Are Slim and Mastodon Is an Imperfect Substitute](https://bra.in/9joXg5)
- [Metaweb Technologies](http://www.metaweb.com) (2005)
- [Nugget Size](https://bra.in/5pxgzK)
- [readwrite](http://readwrite.com/) (2003 as Read/Write Web)
- [Rethinking Peer Review](https://bra.in/8jYZQA)
- [Hypothes.is](http://hypothes.is/)
- [Talcott Parsons](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talcott_Parsons)
- [Niklas Luhmann](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niklas_Luhmann)
	- [Zettelkasten](http://ds.ub.uni-bielefeld.de/viewer/ppnresolver?id=ZKLuhm) (clip or slip box, card index)
	- [The Zettelkasten Principles](https://bra.in/6pxNJK)
- [The Extended Mind: The Power of Thinking Outside the Brain](https://www.amazon.com/Thinking-Outside-Brain-Annie-Murphy-ebook/dp/B07FKB3V5S/jerrymichalskisr)
- [The Professor and the Madman](http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/006099486X/jerrymichalskisr)
- [Tools for Thinking Podcast](https://bra.in/2vGNna) (2022 T4T, TfT)

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